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Why cant they build something like this and go 250,000 MPH
I'm sure plenty of people have watched Star Trek, problem is that it's entirely fiction. Indeed, even the universe is entirely fictional, because they have plenty of earth like planets. As for why scientist can't build a ship that goes fast enough, maybe its because they're limited by science and reality? Though you go on believing the USS Enterprise is a real ship, oh wait it is. O.O
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I find it a dramatic leap in imagination to believe this planet sustains life.
Indeed, I'm dubious of life as well though I don't think it's a stretch, especially with their belief that it might have water. I have a open mind. We've been wrong about a planet/planetoid before, and after all this is only universe we have to work with. With this being considered Earth-like because its the closest thing we've got so far. Indeed, the scientist only see this as a step forward, not the end of discovery.

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I find it a dramatic leap in imagination to believe this planet sustains life.
Why? Do you believe in the fundamental uniqueness of Earth life, or is it for scientific reasons?
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But were doomed!!!! WHY??? CAUSE GOD MADE MISTAKES!!!! Why did he allow Hitler to come into our world? Why did he allow Arabs in as well? Why didnt God just Flood the Middle east or sink it into the bottom of the ocean like he did to atlantis? Here the only thing GOD did right,, THE DESTRUCTION OF ROME!! Who knows what that roman empire might had done if it still excisted today? GOD Is ruining this planet cause hes still allowing Arabs run like wild luntic human beings who kill people by the dozens!!! And Killing themselves as well. If GOD is real i want him do this to saudi arabia and IRAN

Along with an 9.4 Earthquake

Now explain why GOD wants Bin Laden and Al Queda still breathing and operating?
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Steveox, can't you just create a thread in off-topic and use it as a blog for your posts? By spreading them out all over the board, you drag the discussion quality down in many places rather than making it absolutely atrocious in just one.
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Indeed, I doubt there is life there also, but at the same time I have a open mind until its proven otherwise. We've been wrong about a planet/planetoid before, and after all this is only universe we have to work with. With this being considered Earth-like because its the closest thing we've got so far. Indeed, the scientist only see this as a step forward, not the end of discovery.
Finding small planets is no trivial task. I don't think that us not having discovered them is at all indicative that they don't exist.
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Why? Do you believe in the fundamental uniqueness of Earth life, or is it for scientific reasons?
Scientific reasons.
I agree that with the vastness of space that it is not only unlikely that we are unique, but improbable.
However - life is extremely rare...extremely.

The number and mixtures of numerous properties, energies, temperatures, chemistry ANND all not only have to come together, but stay together for billions of years so that life can evolve into a meaningful form (even if that form is not much beyond amoeba) ANNND you find it at that truly brief moment, in cosmic time, when the planet had the window of life on it.

The chances therefore (IMO) of finding life outside of earth would be a mathematical miracle.
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Finding small planets is no trivial task. I don't think that us not having discovered them is at all indicative that they don't exist.
I agree, I changed my sentiments, and didn't exactly mean to say that life doesn't exist anywhere else but that I'm dubious until proven so. Still, what this discovery does more than anything is prove that Earth isn't a glitch. Which is a very good start. Not that I'm suggesting that this is the ultimate find, it isn't, I'm sure there are even better planets but this is something new. Nor am I suggesting that before now did such planets not exist just because we didn't discover them, they have, its just now we have some sort of proof. Whether life exist is a big big big maybe, but its better than what we've ever had before.

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I find it a dramatic leap in imagination to believe this planet sustains life.
Certainly would not be life as we know it. But lets not forget that only 2 decades ago people were saying that it would be a eap to suggest that other stars host planets.... And then before that it was a leap to think the sun was not unique...and so on.....


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The chances therefore (IMO) of finding life outside of earth would be a mathematical miracle.
The chances of us finding it or the chances that it exists? Those are two different things.

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On a very sad and distressing note congress has all but quashed the Terrestrial Planet Finder Mission. That really bites since this is the kind of candidates it would have targeted....

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That being said, I wonder how it looks like now. That is, considering what we know of this planet is very very old.
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Steveox, can't you just create a thread in off-topic and use it as a blog for your posts? By spreading them out all over the board, you drag the discussion quality down in many places rather than making it absolutely atrocious in just one.
I know drgoodtrips,But im frustrated cause dumbass NASA cant create advanced spacecrafts with the speed so we can explore other planets and hopfuly we all get the hell off the earth.
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That being said, I wonder how it looks like now. That is, considering what we know of this planet is very very old.
We would always be destined to see it as it was 20 years before. We would be watching WWI but in present day reality WWII would just be getting started.

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I know drgoodtrips,But im frustrated cause dumbass NASA cant create advanced spacecrafts with the speed so we can explore other planets and hopfuly we all get the hell off the earth.
Given us time, we will.

As for NASA; blame the Democrats, they were the ones whom reduced funding.






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